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Thinking about moving!!

Hello everybody! My name is Daniel. Iam a 27 year old from New Jersey, living in Asheville NC. I am tired of big city life. Not that Asheville is really a big city, but whatever. Me and my fiance are service industry professionals. We are looking to move to a nice small town, and your folks great city came up as #1!!!! So iam so very curious as to the opinion of the locals. I was hoping for some much needed input and information. Thanks alot folks!

POSTED: 2008-07-21

Please do not move here.

POSTED: 2008-07-22 13:33:36

Don't worry about that last post. People love it here and they want to keep it for themselves. Southwest Montana is an excellent place to live. Is there anything in particular that you are looking to find out?

POSTED: 2008-07-22 14:09:28

No, it's because I am living in my hometown and I can't survive.

POSTED: 2008-07-22 22:23:03

Thank you for your responses. I was looking into the job market, housing market, entertainment or night life options. The quality of life there. How much of an effect does the college have on the town? But I guess if people would actually tell someone not to move there, and other people say that its because they want to keep it to themselves, then i guess that means its a pretty special place. ALthough if that person is serious, I am curious as to why he/she cant make it there?

POSTED: 2008-07-23 13:00:48

It's true that Bozeman is out pricing a lot of long time locals. The fast growth has also brought with it high prices. The cost of living in Bozeman is much higher than the bulk of Montana. The competition for entry level service jobs is crazy. Fast food employers are paying $10-12/hr starting with signing bonuses, etc. The professional job market is fairly good in the tech industries. There are a lot of great community events to attend throughout the year that make Bozeman feel like a small town. There are not a lot of night life options besides hitting the local bars.

The college plays a large role in Bozeman. A large number of high-tech startup companies spur out of MSU. Bobcat sporting events draw large crowds. On the downside, the 10,000 students also raise the cost of renting a house/apartment.

POSTED: 2008-07-24 00:49:32

Wow that was exactly what I was looking for. I sincerley appreciate everyones help. Thanks alot folks!!

POSTED: 2008-07-24 08:49:08

We don't move just because we're tired of someplace, weasel! You don't seem to know much about the town you're living in, a "big city" is it? We don't refer to ourselves as "folks" the way you say it with your service industry "aim to please."

POSTED: 2008-08-06 01:09:42

If you don't like asheville, you won't like bozeman. they are similar. Just colder here. Be culturally aware. Montana has its own culture, it's a way of life, respect that.

POSTED: 2008-08-06 19:41:31

Wow!!!! You are some pissy people. Where in any of my posts was I disrespectful??? I am a weasel for not liking someplace and wanting to move elsewhere??? You obviously didnt read the part where I said that Asheville ISNT really a big city. Smart and tolerant people you are, obviously. And just so you know I couldnt care less what you FOLKS say. I say folks. You should find something else to pick apart you miserable people!!! Although, if Bozeman is just like Asheville, then I certainly understand the pissy attitude.

POSTED: 2008-08-08 08:34:50

I think Bozeman is a great place to live and to raise a family. Majority of people are very kind and welcoming, however you have the select few who come off as a snobbish because they fear change.

Anyways, I was born and raised in the Bozeman area and have to say...if you are looking for a balanced lifestyle, then this is the place to be. There is a lot to do here, from outdoor activities, local coffee houses, festivals, dinning, movies and shopping. I will admit that the cost of living has gone up quite a bit which has been hard on the locals. MSU brings about 12,000 students, so during the school year, it brings a young crowd in town and there is a great nightlife. I should state that it is not your typical clubbing scene that you would see in a larger city, but there are a lot of little local bars and pubs where local bands play. Also, the weather in the winter could be a little hard, especially if you are used to warmer weather, but it is nothing a person couldn't aclimate to.

My recommendation is come visit the area look around, check out the local scene, housing prices and decide if this is a place you would like to call home. I can gurantee you will be impressed with the local hospitality, which is what we are famously known for.

Take care and best of luck!

POSTED: 2008-08-09 09:42:37

Just guessing, but I think what was trying to be said is maybe that city folks come in and kind of look downonthe old way and it's irksome.

I love Bozeman, though having been to Asheville, they are similar, small artsy towns. You may have a hard time here financially. It's pretty tough. I think it's better for families than young singles.

Good luck, MT is so beautiful and the people are good. But like the other guy said, there is a way of life so just watch that and try to be respectful, as you would in any different country, right.

POSTED: 2008-08-09 20:15:34

Daniel, We want to hear about Asheville. What's it like there?

POSTED: 2008-08-29 14:59:44

Bozeman is a fantastic town if you lived there for many years and own your own home. If you move there with the expectation of getting a house, good luck if you don't have money. I worked at one of the highest-paying tech firms in Bozeman, making $50K a year. That sounds like a lot, but then when you look at housing prices in Bozeman, it's not. Sure, you can move to Three Forks, but then you have to contend with gas prices and a 45-minute+ (depending on where you live in TF) commute. You can't eat scenery. Yes, Montana has its own culture, so you have to get used to that, too. If you are outdoors person, you'll love it. If you like arts and music, there are opportunities but you have to remember it's still a small town.

I was confronted with some small-minded people who felt I should go back where I came from, but that's anywhere you go.

If you want mountains, go to either Boise or Salt Lake City. Much cheaper to live there and you'll have the benefits of a bigger city to boot.

POSTED: 2008-08-30 11:53:37

Every place in the world is changing and real estate properties have gone up everywhere. I don't understand why people in Bozeman feel like it's just their town that is changing?? I feel like if a couple has more than 2 children they have no right to complain about the changes!

POSTED: 2008-09-11 12:23:07

I have also seen a lot of posts where it is stated how expensive it is living in Bozeman. That would depend on where you are coming from.

I currently reside in Maryland and when researching Bozeman I was shocked to see how much less expensive home were there than they are in Maryland. The homes in Bozeman that go for 300K to 500K would be easily 800K-1 million here and you get land with yours. We're lucky if we get a 1/4 acre here.

POSTED: 2008-09-14 17:41:21

Agreed that when you're looking from the perspective of another state, Bozeman seems cheap. However, if you're not going to sell a house (and possibly bring whatever's left), you're in a shock.

Wages are disgustingly low in Bozeman. So, if you want to live in an apartment or drive more than an hour away, it's great. Driving gets old real fast. I've got a friend with land, and he spends close to two hours a day in his car.

Houses are starting to come down in Bozeman, but nothing like what we've seen across the nation.

I said it before, and I'll say it again...

You can't eat scenery.

POSTED: 2008-09-14 17:58:27

I see where you are coming from and there is a lot more to find out than the housing costs. Fortunately for us our house is almost worth 3X what we paid for it in the early 90's.We would keep out current jobs as they are telecommute positions and can be done from anywhere we decide to relocate to.

POSTED: 2008-09-14 18:41:12

OK, but an FYI, if you're going to telecommute make sure (where you're moving to) has DSL/cable - Bresnan is the company in Bozeman or you can use Comcast. Depending on the area, some places do not have "good Internet" where you'd have to opt for satellite. For those who surf occasionally, it's fine, but for those who telecommute, it's not good (as you probably know).

POSTED: 2008-09-14 19:32:48

OK, but an FYI, if you're going to telecommute make sure (where you're moving to) has DSL/cable - Bresnan is the company in Bozeman or you can use Comcast. Depending on the area, some places do not have "good Internet" where you'd have to opt for satellite. For those who surf occasionally, it's fine, but for those who telecommute, it's not good (as you probably know).

POSTED: 2008-09-14 19:33:19

My boyfriend and I chose Bozeman three years ago. We came here seeking an education at MSU, culture within the community and fresh start. Well..yes fast food places start out at 10-12 dollar an hour but do you really want to work for mcdonnalds?? service industry positions that individuals actually seek out pay more like 8-9 hour. Three years later, we have given up on MSU as its impossible to afford due to having to work two jobs to live paycheck to paycheck in this apparently fabulous place. Well in my opinion the amount of big money moving in creating a housing a market that is ridiculous and completely unreachable for the majority of people here. Most of the people here are warm welcoming and it doess offer a lot of outdoor activity and scenery. Chances are unless you are planning on skiing during the midnight hours and trying to view the mountains in the dark between working two jobs to exist here there is NO opportunity to take in the area..I agree look elsewhere the mountains are not that great, to sacrafice not being able to live and enjoy it.

POSTED: 2008-10-15 12:00:52

Try Livingston

POSTED: 2008-10-23 23:01:02

I dont live there personally right now but my wife does and she makes $18hr and she is barely making it! It is a costly place to live but worth it if you like the outdoors/skiing. Alot of students come from rich families and live off CreditCards from daddy and they just wanna ski while going to school so they pick MSU.

POSTED: 2008-12-11 05:15:36

I don't agree. I know plenty of middle class average people here. I think people are just saying it's hard to make it here so there won't be so many coming in. It's a great place with the best quality of life you could find. So yeah, maybe we should lie and say it's impossible to live here to keep our life the same!

POSTED: 2008-12-21 19:04:25

I knew plenty of middle class, average people while living in Bozeman, too. However, they bought their houses back before the population and building boom - when you could get a house for under $120K. Try getting a condo for $120K now in Bozeman.

I worked with professionals who made decent money - they didn't drive new cars (or have car payments); didn't buy fancy clothes or electronics; and still struggled. All I am saying, as I would've loved to stayed but couldn't when my ex left me for another woman, is that look before you leap. My friends that have stayed...some of their spouses were employed in the construction industry, which has seen a downturn in the area.

I would never try and prevent someone from moving into a certain area; that is small-minded and American.

POSTED: 2008-12-21 19:19:36

I wont even say please,dont move here!!! I am born and raised here and am fed up with peopple coming here for a "change" and bringing thier crap with them!! Do NOT move here!! But like you said...WHATEVER!!

POSTED: 2010-03-21 07:40:11

Move someplace between Bozeman and Belgrade. I think eventualy the two towns will merge into one.

POSTED: 2010-05-16 17:16:54

After living over a decade in Asia, I spent a month in Western Montana on vacation. I was able to see the contrast between non-white and white culture / cities / living quite vividly.

What most of you are missing is, besides the natural beauty of the area, is that Montana is 95% white. Yes, I know that is politically incorrect, but needs to be said. You like the area because it was built by white people.

The "outsiders" are moving in to get away from the non-white areas they came from. They are fleeing the third world conditions created by all the non-whites flooding into our once great white nation.

You've been fed a lie folks.

Multiculturalism is not our strength and non-whites and whites are not alike. Simply live in a non-white nation to prove that to yourself. I have lived in four non-white nations and traveled in over 25 - both Asian and "Hispanic." We whites build better nations, hands down.

Stop fighting with each other and realize that our once great nation is being invaded by non-whites. If we don't put a stop to it, in 50 years or less, even Montana will be undesirable.

Do you want that for your children?

Look up the 14 words.

POSTED: 2010-09-19 04:02:52


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